Posts by label licker

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Can you take someone with you in Judicial Committee?

by zound in

i've heard of a couple of cases of a person being present (maybe wife, or friend) for support at judicial committees - is this commonly accepted by the elder committee or is it just a rarity?.

label licker

And once bethel knows that you taped your jc, they will not want to get involved with you or your elders. They will lie as well as hang up on you in fear your taping them and yet when you call bethel, they let you know that your phone call is being monitored. They don't realise that when they run from us, they leave us no choice but to take it to the newspapers as well as talk shows. Taping is a protection for you, that's for sure.

They also said that they didn't want my husband in the meeting and I told them that he is staying by my side. They wanted to pull shit on me and without my husband there, I would have been seriously abused more so. I went to my jc to see who my accusers were and have alot of fun when I run into them when they don't have their elders to protect them. I enjoy watching them run as well as put their heads down towards the floor(an elders wife and her mother) out of shame. These elders don't realise the harrassment they have created. We are not going away.

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I skipped the meeting again!! Wife gives me a look I have never seen...

by DATA-DOG in

i had a rough day of physical work and was tired and cold.

i decided to stay home and rest.

when my wife found out, a very strange look swept over her face for just an instant.

label licker

My heart goes out to all. With all what we have been through, I still wouldn't trade it in for the freedom we have now. Just remember when you notice more visits than usual and possibly a jc meeting in the future, tape everything. It really does work in your favor.

There's a couple in our hall where she kicked him out. They df'd the husband and she decided to pioneer. No kids. She is being used in the upcoming assembly. Society is really scraping the barrel with this couple. She has no time to put anything into her marriage but can go out and teach others how to keep their marriage together as long as they pioneer. She's young and beautiful. All about image and making the "good news" real appealing.

There are more and more spouses splitting up with the approval of mother. Divorcing seems to be the new fad. As long as they pioneer and make their shepherds look like they are doing their jobs by helping these wingnuts put kingdom interests first, it will be easier to throw away marriage mates. With the approval of the society. Be careful. Anything can be used against you in the name of seeking first the kingdom and anything else takes second place.(District convention 2014)

LL

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This Weekends SAD Not So Special

by piztjw in

so after being at this weekend's snooze fest i thought the following pretty well summed it all up:.

if it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from satan!

and if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at armagedon.. if you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.. if you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is your fault!

label licker

Awesome. If it were me I wouldn't even put IOU but instead Sorry about your luck! Or hope this covers what I wrote on every bathroom stall in this building, love jwnet

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FORGIVENESS ... You owe it to your health

by ABibleStudent in

i'm cleaning up my home of unnecessary magazines/newsletters that i have accumulated over the years.

while i was working as an employee i did not feel like i had the time to read them.

now that i'm not working as an employee but work as a volunteer to network and maintain workplace skills, i seem to have more time to read.. after reading many threads by former jws, i thought that the following article might help some to heal.

label licker

Wow! There are so many ways to look at this and here is just one of those examples that happened to us in town yesterday. We were stopped at the lights sitting next to one of my accusers husband. The one who finally go df'd after two years of the elders covering and hiding things he was doing. His window was down and so many levels of anger was going through my head on account of the elders and him smashing in his wife's car by hand drunk, and waving a loaded gun at his wife and father. Yet he was always getting away with things. His whole family were my accusers. None of them had a story that stuck. Two months later one of them was made an elder.

So what did I say to him? How are you and to go on JWFacts. I was trying to help him After he told us that he hand delivered a letter of complaints to the co on Friday and had the cops who followed him in to the back of the hall where the co lives. It always comes back to bite this cult in the ass. Afterwards, I realised it felt so good to be able to try and get him to feel better since it's been the cult that messed him and his family up. Then I thought of these slimy elders and wonder what they would be like had it not been for the training they recieved from this slimey cult. I guess it's the slimey cult that is going to be the sore spot for the rest of my life that I can not or will not forgive. That will be the thorn in my side that I will have to work hard at to trying and removing it. Good topic!

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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..

by DATA-DOG in

i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??

label licker

Correction: It was Saskatchewan that Sanderson and this other brother was pioneering. Sorry:)

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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..

by DATA-DOG in

i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??

label licker

Sanderson was partaking when he was in his early twenty's. He was living in Flinflon, Manitoba, at the time. He was an ms at the time when a brother had asked him if he was sure of being one of the annointed since he couldn't even give any counsel to those in the ministry school on their parts.

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The most disturbing Watchtower quote in 2013.

by never a jw in

i am trying to put together the worst of 2013. the first quote that comes to mind is possibly your "favorite" too.

do you have any other disturbing quotes from the publications in the wt?.

elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

label licker

Gerritt Losch saying that the gilead students serve as god's angels in their ministry as well as being directed by angelic spirit creatures. That just makes me want to be a missionary. (136th gilead class jw.org Thank you brother Mike:) Why do we need these spirit creatures directing us if we are god's angels when out in the ministry????

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I am DF'd now... Decisions, decisions...

by Comatose in

so i was df'd a couple weeks ago.

i live in a place where i didn't really have new friends at the kh, so my day to day life isn't changing.

i'm just me living life like i was 2 weeks ago and 2 years ago.

label licker

This is so sad. Comostose, do you know what is worse than your parents not talking to you? Your daughter watching your grandparents not talking to you. Your daughter only knows you the most as her rock shelter of refuge and anyone hurting you will also hurt her. She does not need these headgames in her life. It can not become normal for her to see people hurt those they are suppose to love. She might one day think you will do that to her just by watching that this kind of behavior is allowed. Or one day have to fight her feelings and be torn as to who she is to be loyal to. Grandparents behavior or mom and dad's. This religion's manipulation of even the innocent and naive has got to stop!!!!!!!!!!! No one has the right to divide or play mind games on any family.

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Family of 4 in Miami FL Partakes

by James Jackson in

jw
friends

kendall lakes congregation (miami fl usa), partook of the emblems.

he is an elder(40), his wife and their 2 daughters (21 &19), all 4 are also regular pioneers.

another 6 pioneers in that congregation partook of the emblems..

label licker

Here in southern Ontario an elderly couple partook two years ago. The elders waited almost a year (the week before the next memorial) and hauled them in to the second school and told them to read the stack of articles they gave them. Then they had the co work with them and he asked them if the wife felt she should partake because her husband did. He asked the husband if he thought he was going to be in heaven and the husband said he didn't care where he was but that he knew they should partake. The co told him then don't partake. A local needs was given a week before this memorial about not partaking. This year he partook and there was a whole back row of idiots laughing at him. While he partook the speaker was staring right at him and he stared right back at the speaker while he partook. The wife is just sick about it for she feels she should partake too. I told them to come to our home for us and other ex-jw's do partake plus we have the passover meal. Talk about persecution from within, sheesh!

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Question about Matthew 26:17 and Leviticus 23:5,6

by label licker in

how could the passover be on the same day as feast of unleaven bread?

matthew 26:17 says it was the first day of unleaven cakes/bread and they were asking where to prepare the passover.

but leviticus says the passover was on the fourteenth and the feast of unleaven bread/cakes was on the fifteenth, next day after passover.

label licker

The day of preparation is the day before the feast of unleaven bread/cakes. Because it falls on the weekly sabbath, and it's a holy convention and the two fall on the same day it's a high sabbath. So this doesn't change the fact that what he said in Leviticus 23:5 and on that the passover was on the fourteenth and feast of unleaven bread was on the fifteenth. Day of preparation is always the day before. The passover was still the passover. The only thing special about it was that it was his last one.

I'm just wondering why in Matthew it says they were getting ready for the passover on the day of feast of unleavened bread. Yet in Leviticus it was two seperate daysThe fourteenth of Nisan was to be the passover and fifteenth was to be the feast of unleavened bread. Two seperate days. Matthew is reading that these two days were on one day.